CJI : we must recognise that the constitution in not prescribing qualifications with regards property, education, gender it was an article of faith and a very visionary provision. Ours was the first constitution which did not make the right to hold elections or contest elections conditional on gender, property etc

Sibal : I agree, I'm on something different, this class of people, if you do not empower them under 15 you are not gonna get representation under 16.

CJI: in that sense, you said they share a symbiotic relationship , because unless you create a foundation for employment, you will not get employment. You need a workforce for that

Sibal now takes the bench 16(4) and 16(4)(a) - former doesn't mention SC/ST but the later does - so 16(4)(a) is an answer that 16(4) does include SC/STs