Sibal : may so, but that is not part of the notification, that's nothing to do with the reservation

Gavai J : that may not be correct because unless there is an entry for SC find a place in the presidential order ....

Sibal : I'll just demonstrate your lordships, wherever they have wanted to give reservations they have given it.

CJI: it is a necessary but not a sufficient condition, designation under 341 is a necessary condition for reservation but it is not sufficient in itself. Because having been designated, there still exists an enabling power conferred upon the parliament or for that matter as my brother says the executive

Sibal : but it's from the union or the parliament, the order itself has no reference to reservation and I'll show that from the chapter itself.